WE DISCUSS HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH
BARACK OBAMA, HOW HE REALIZED
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE OFFICE AND
HOW HE USES THE ROOM.
EVERY PRESIDENT MAKES THE OVAL
OFFICE THEIRS. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MAKE THIS
YOURS? >> WELL, A LOT OF THINGS.
WE HAD THESE INCREDIBLE FLAGS
INCLUDING THE AMERICAN FLAGS.
THEY WERE IN DIFFERENT ROOMS AND
THEY WERE ALWAYS BEING PUSHED
AROUND BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE
ENOUGH ROOM. I SAID, HOW BEAUTIFUL.
THE BASE, THE FLAGS, ARMY, NAVY,
MARINE CORPS.
I MEAN, JUST SO BEAUTIFUL.
JUST SO BEAUTIFUL.
COAST GUARD FLAG OVER HERE.
AND I SAID, WELL, LET'S SEE HOW
THEY LOOK IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
SO THE FLAGS ARE UP.
THE PICTURE OF THOMAS JEFFERSON
I PUT UP.
THE PICTURE OF ANDREW JACKSON I
PUT UP. BECAUSE THEY SAID HIS CAMPAIGN
AND MY CAMPAIGN TENDED TO MIRROR
EACH OTHER.
SO WE DID A LOT OF -- ACTUALLY,
WE DID A LOT OF WORK.
IT'S A MUCH DIFFERENT LOOK THAN
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
>> WHAT WOULD FRED TRUMP --
>> THAT'S MY FATHER.
AND I HAVE ONE COMING OF MY
MOTHER. >> WHAT WOULD HE SAY?
>> HE'D BE PROUD.
HE WAS A GREAT GUY, GOOD HEART,
TOUGH GUY.
GREAT HEART. AND HE'D BE VERY PROUD.
>> YOU SAID THE WHITE HOUSE IS
LIKE A COCOON SOMETIMES.
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, I WAS VERY WELL KNOWN
AS YOU UNDERSTAND PRIOR TO THIS.
BUT THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE --
THAT WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ARE REALLY
IN YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD.
SECRET SERVICE, THEY'RE
PHENOMENAL, BUT THEY ARE ALL
OVER THE PLACE.
I MEAN, THEY ARE THE REAL DEAL.
THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IF I WANTED TO GET OUT, DRIVE MY
CAR TO A CERTAIN LOCATION AND GO
DO SOMETHING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT
ANYMORE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT
FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT
ALL OF THAT I UNDERSTAND.
I GUESS I ASSUMED THAT THAT
WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU WON.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK
WE'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB AND
I ENJOY IT. >> TELL ME ABOUT WHAT YOU -- YOU
DO A LOT OF YOUR WORK IN HERE.
>> I DO. I'M HERE A LOT.
>> WHY IN HERE AND NOT OTHER
PLACES?
>> I FEEL VERY WARM TOWARD THE
OVAL OFFICE.
IT'S A GREAT SYMBOL. ALSO, WHEN I HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE
THAT WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE -- FOR
INSTANCE, I WAS NEGOTIATING TO
REDUCE THE PRICE OF THE BIG
FIGHTER JET CONTRACT, THE F-35
WHICH WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL.
I WILL SAVE BILLIONS AND
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS, AND CALLING FROM HERE
AND MEETING HERE AND HAVING
MEETINGS ON THAT CONTRACT I
THINK GIVES YOU GREAT ADDITIONAL
POWER IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE
TRUTH. >> SO WHAT -- >> OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COME IN,
BIG PEOPLE FROM BIG COMPANIES
HAVE BEEN TO THE WHITE HOUSE 50
TIMES.
SOMEONE YOU KNOW, THE HEAD OF A
MAJOR COMPANY, HAVE YOU BEEN TO
THE WHITE HOUSE?
YEAH, 50 TIMES. SO I SAID YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE
OVAL OFFICE. HE SAID, NO, I HAVE NEVER BEEN
IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
I BROUGHT HIM IN AND HE STARTED
TO CRY.
THIS IS A TOUGH PERSON, BY THE
WAY. CAME INTO THE OVAL OFFICE AND
STARTED TO CRY.
NOW, THIS IS A PERSON WITH A
MAGNIFICENT OFFICE WITH
BEAUTIFUL GLASS WALLS AND
EVERYTHING. YOU UNDERSTAND.
YOU HAVE SEEN THOSE OFFICES
BEFORE. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING VERY
SPECIAL ABOUT THIS SPACE. >> SOMEONE GOING TO BEHAVE LIKE
THAT IN HERE, HOW DO YOU KNOW
THAT PEOPLE AREN'T TELLING YOU
YOU WANT TO HEAR?
>> YOU MEAN WITH THE TEARS?
>> NO, THEY SEE THE OVAL OFFICE,
THEY SAY YES, MR. PRESIDENT, WHO
TELLS YOU NO?
>> I THINK WHEN I HAVE FOREIGN
LEADERS HERE, NO MATTER WHAT
COUNTRY, NO MATTER HOW BIG, WE
HAD CHANCELLOR MERKEL.
WE HAD THEM ALL. THEY COME HERE.
THEY STILL TAKE NOTICE AT THE
OVAL OFFICE.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
>> THEY MEAN IT.
>> ONE OF THE WORRIES ABOUT A
PRESIDENCY EVERYBODY TELLS YOU
YES.
NOBODY HELPS YOU FIGURE OUT
WHERE YOUR BLIND SPOTS ARE.
HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU FIND
THAT?
>> I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS IN LIFE YOU HAVE TO
FIGURE OUT.
MAYBE I HAVE BEEN FIGURING THAT OUT ANYWAY LONG BEFORE I GOT
HERE. BUT SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO PIG YOUR OUT.
BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL PLACE.
THE WHITE HOUSE IS SPECIAL.
THE OVAL OFFICE. VERY SPECIAL.
>> ANY OTHER GADGETS YOU HAVE
GOTTEN INSTALLED HERE SINCE YOU
CAME? >> WELL, EVERYONE THINKS THAT
THIS IS VERY OMINOUS RIGHT HERE. SEE THIS?
THESE ARE PHONES.
THESE ARE VERY -- YOU KNOW, VERY
SECURE PHONES BUT THIS IS A VERY
OMINOUS LOOKING BECAUSE OF THE
RED BUTTON.
>> WHAT DOES THAT GET YOU --
>> WELL, THAT GETS YOU A COKE OR
GETS YOU A PEPSI.
>> OH. >> ONE OR THE OTHER.
ANY OTHER COLA COMPANIES I
SHOULD MENTION, RIGHT?
IT GETS YOU SOMETHING.
BUT EVERY TIME I PRESS THAT,
PEOPLE -- THEY'LL BE SITTING
DOWN. I'VE CHANGED THE WAY IT WORKS.
I'LL HAVE PEOPLE SITTING HERE.
USED TO BE THEY NEVER HAD CHAIRS
THAT ANYBODY CAN REMEMBER IN
FRONT OF THE DESK.
I HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY.
I HAVE BEEN AT THE DESK, I HAVE
PEOPLE HERE.
USUALLY THEY WOULD SIT ON THE
SOFAS.
BUT THIS IS THE RESOLUTE DESK.
A GREAT DESK WITH A PHENOMENAL
HISTORY.
MANY GREAT PRESIDENTS WERE
BEHIND THIS DESK AND THEN SOME
CHOOSE OTHER DESKS. THEY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN DESKS THAT
YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHOOSE, BUT I
LIKE THIS.
THIS WAS FDR, IT WAS RONALD REAGAN, IT WAS KENNEDY.
IT'S -- SOME GREAT PRESIDENTS
BEHIND THIS DESK. >> GEORGE W. BUSH SAID THE OVAL
OFFICE IS AROUND IS BECAUSE
THERE ARE NO CORNERS TO HIDE IN.
>> THERE'S TRUTH TO THAT. THERE'S NO CORNERS.
THERE IS AN OPENNESS, BUT
THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY OUT THERE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
>> WHAT HE MEANT -- IT'S ALL
SECURI
SECURE.
>> YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. >> WHEN DID IT HIT YOU, THE
MAGNITUDE OF THE OFFICE AND REGARD WILL Z O -- REGARDLESS OF
WHAT HAPPENED, THE BUCK STOPS
WITH YOU. >> IT'S THE BIGNESS OF THE
OFFICE, IT'S THE BIGNESS OF THE
TRANSACTIONS AND THE DEALS. YOU LOOK AT THE ORDER PLANES.
IT'S BIGGER THAN ANY ORDER OF
PLANES.
YOU LOOK AT AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
THAT COST $10 BILLION AND
$12 BILLION TO BUILD AND
SUBMARINES THAT COST $5 BILLION
TO BUILD.
IT'S THE MAGNITUDE, BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY, YOU KNOW, THE
DECISION IS LIKE WHEN I MADE THE DECISION TO GO WITH SYRIA, THE
59 TOMAHAWK MISSILES,
UNBELIEVABLE TECHNOLOGY.
WE HAVE UNBELIEVABLE TALENT.
BUT THOSE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS.
THOSE AREN'T LIKE DECISIONS THAT
I'M GOING TO BUY A BUILDING. >> TOUGH WHY?
>> BECAUSE IT'S HUMAN LIVES.
>> KILLING PEOPLE? >> KILLING PEOPLE.
AND YOU CAN KILL THE WRONG
PEOPLE TOO. YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS GO OFF
AND THEY END UP IN A TOWN OR THEY END UP IN A CITY AND YOU
HAVE ANOTHER TRAGEDY ON YOUR
HANDS. SO THESE DECISIONS ARE
UNBELIEVABLE. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE
IMPORTANCE BECAUSE IT'S HUMAN.
IT'S KILLING.
I HATE IT.
BUT THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE.
>> HOW DO YOU LEARN THAT SKILL?
WHO DO YOU CALL TO SAY WHAT IT'S
LIKE?
> THERE'S NOBODY YOU CAN CALL.
>> DID PRESIDENT OBAMA DID YOU
ANY ADVICE THAT WAS HELPFUL?
>> WELL, HE WAS NICE TO ME, BUT
AFTER THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME
DIFFICULTIES. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU KNOW, WORDS ARE LESS IMPORTANT TO ME THAN DEEDS.
YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH
SURVEILLANCE. >> DIFFICULTIES HOW?
>> WELL, YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED
WITH SURVEILLANCE. AND I THINK THAT WAS
INAPPROPRIATE. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN --
>> YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT
YOURSELF. >> WELL, THE REASON I ASKED, YOU
CALLED HIM SICK AND BAD.
>> LOOK, YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
YOURSELF. HE WAS VERY NICE TO ME WITH
WORDS BUT -- AND WHEN I WAS WITH
HIM. BUT AFTER THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO
RELATIONSHIP. >> BUT YOU STAND BY THAT CLAIM
ABOUT --
>> I DON'T STAND BY ANYTHING. YOU CAN TAKE IT THE WAY YOU
WANT. EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT
AND FRANKLY IT SHOULD BE
DISCUSSED.
I THINK THAT IS A VERY BIG SURVEILLANCE OF OUR CITIZENS.
I THINK IT'S A VERY BIG TOPIC
AND IT'S A TOPIC THAT SHOULD BE
NUMBER ONE AND WE SHOULD FIND
OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.
>> I WANTED TO FIND OUT THOUGH,
YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, YOU SAID HE'S
SICK AND BAD.
>> YOU CAN TAKE IT ANY WAY YOU
WANT. >> I'M ASKING YOU.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE FAKE NEWS.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM PRESIDENT
TRUMP. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME.
>> WHY NOT?
>> I HAVE MY OWN OPINIONS.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS.
>> BUT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR
OPINIONS.
YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> THAT'S ENOUGH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.